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BEWARE FREELANCERS!

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BEWARE FREELANCERS! is project number 7984 posted at GetAFreelancer.com. Click here to post your own project.

Status: Closed (Cancelled by Service Buyer)
Selected Providers: -
Budget: $20-100
Created: 11/07/2004 at 3:18 EST
Bidding Ends: 12/12/2004 at 3:18 EST
Project Creator: CleverLdy View PM Post PM
Buyer Rating: (No Feedback Yet)
Description: I feel compelled to warn other freelancers of the horrific ordeal I just endured at coswap.com, an obviously inferior site to this one.

I bid on a project and apparently won the bid, but (I learned later) due to technical issues, I never recieved notification - until I got a nasty email from the administrator admonishing me for ignoring the client and threatening to ban me from the site.

Needless to say, I was horrified that the client had been kept waiting and promptly logged in to accept the project. Unfortunately, more technical problems... so I email the admin of the site and instruct him to forward my acceptance and told him of the problem.

I also told him I was not happy with the rudeness displayed in his email, and he best check his own notification scripts.

While awaiting a reply from either the admin or the client, I realized that the email correspondence had been cc'd to the client as well - his email address was visible in the email! I figured it had to be a slip-up, but took advantage of it and let the client know I had accepted the bid.

The admin emails back, with all of the email correspondence to date below, and I see that again he has included the client in the email!! So now this client is listening to complaints about the site, and having to endure getting all the emails.

I was upset, and emailed back to the admin telling him to respect the privacy of the emails - that the client does not need to be party to problems I am having with this site... he emails back AGAIN with the client cc'd and says "its like a forum here - there are no private messages"!!!!!!!!

WELL!!! As you can imagine, I lost it. Told him if I wanted my complaints public, I would have posted them in the message board; that it was completely unprofessional to subject the client to all of this, and these emails were damaging to my relationship with my client because he did not need to be party to my anger with the site.

Guess what?? YEP!!! ANOTHER EMAIL CC'D TO THE CLIENT!! And this one was a "what's your problem" type of message!!

The worst part is, at this point, the client emails me with sympathy over my problem with this idiot, forcing me to apologize to him that he had to be subjected to it. The client also informs me that he has released funds from escrow as per our agreement, so I go to the site to withdraw it.

CAN YOU GUESS???? Yep...technical difficulties.

I'm so fed up by this point I could scream. I email the admin and tell him to release my funds to my PayPal account since his site is not working, and INSTEAD OF RELEASING MY MONEY, HE FORWARDS AN EMAIL TO ME THAT HE WROTE TO THE CLIENT....TELLING HIM NOT TO PAY ME!!!! I just about fell off my chair!!!

He told my client he'd had dealings with me, and he should basically watch out because he "had a feeling" about me, and that if the client still wanted to pay me, the admin would NOT PAY ME, but instead GIVE THE MONEY BACK TO THE CLIENT to pay me directly as they "don't want to be responsible".

So now I get to wait around, hoping the client gets this email from the idiot so I can get paid...

If anyone wants to see the full string of emails, I'm more than happy to share. You can reach me through my website. There is LOTS more that what I've said here, but the gist is that these morons have a site that doesn't work properly, and they do NOT respect their members!!!

It makes me so glad there are sites like this one!!!

Lisa (cleverldy)
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Job Type:
  • Banner Design
  • Graphic Design
  • Logo Design
  • Website Design
Database: (None)
Operating system: (None)
Bid count: 8
Average bid: $ 60

 

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Service Providers PMB Bid Delivery Within Time of Bid Provider Rating
cheapestandbest
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$ 100 2 days 11-07-2004 07:41 EST 9.58/109.58/109.58/109.58/109.58/109.58/109.58/109.58/109.58/109.58/10
(659 reviews)
Lisa mate...u will find an asshole everywhere... and the exception (GAF) prooves the Law. keep up the good work here in GAf... cheers
avissoft
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$ 20 1 day 11-07-2004 12:05 EST 9.69/109.69/109.69/109.69/109.69/109.69/109.69/109.69/109.69/109.69/10
(104 reviews)
Hi! I can try to get you refund and other charges from the webiste admin if you want ofcourse. Thanks!
avnjosh
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$ 100 1 day 11-07-2004 05:05 EST 10.00/1010.00/1010.00/1010.00/1010.00/1010.00/1010.00/1010.00/1010.00/1010.00/10
(4 reviews)
Hi lisa, I have been in this fulltime freelance business for almost 2 years now and I too have lots of horrific experiences as a provider but it's something to do with buyers or sellers.. That's why Im glad you did this initiative of posting this experience for other freelancers to be on guard always of freelance sites and not just buyers. Now I checked the site coswap dot com. I see their site is Square Trade Certified.. That means they are expected to follow strict rules in Buying and Selling activities as outlined in Square Trade's policies such as rights to privacy.. Square trade has this Dispute Resolution page where you can post your complaints for them to facilitate the 'investigation' .. You may go to this link if you like : squaretrade.com/odr/jsp/fil/filing_start_a.jsp?vhostid=chipotle&stmp=squaretrade&disid=jutpgohjr1&cntid=qko1fghkv1 I hope this will help. Avnjosh
deciimal
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$ 20 100 days 11-07-2004 04:49 EST 10.00/1010.00/1010.00/1010.00/1010.00/1010.00/1010.00/1010.00/1010.00/1010.00/10
(3 reviews)
Lisa, All I can say is join the club. At another site.. I used to have rating without any less then ten rankings. I had a customer whose work was done around a year back. Apprantly if teh customer has not left you a review. He can leave one even after a year. There is no way these sites can affirm that the ranking left by the cleint is true or not. so even if you do the work, The client can get back to you after a year and tell you "You did nto complete the work and leave you negetive feedback." I have had it happen to me. Even after mailing the admins and letting them know of the problem nothing could be done. Now when ever I complete a work I either make sure that the client leaves me a review... OR I make sure I cancel the project even after the work has been completed. Another feature I thought you should be warned about. Rajesh
a2zdesigners
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$ 100 100 days 11-07-2004 07:03 EST 9.06/109.06/109.06/109.06/109.06/109.06/109.06/109.06/109.06/109.06/10
(36 reviews)
Ya, I say we should eb glad to be here. I was at another sites where I only came accross dummy projects comingup and wasting time there bidding for those projects is just a waste of time. And about the technical capabilities, GAF is far capable to other sites. This credit goes to InnovateIT. Thanks to their time and implementation. -- Vamsi Gangavalli for a2zDesigners.
buddysal
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$ 20 0 days 11-07-2004 13:41 EST 7.00/107.00/107.00/107.00/107.00/107.00/107.00/107.00/107.00/107.00/10
(3 reviews)
wow, thats not good :( The only problem I have had here is people not explaining fully what they want.. it got me in a mess a few weeks back. I dont know how to repare it.. just by doing other projects I guess. So if you cancel a project are they not allowed to rate you anymore? I have a guy that I did banners for and he didnt pay.. I dont want to leave bad feedback because I know he will hit me with it also. anything I can do to get around it? Buddy
CGDennis
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$ 20 0 days 11-07-2004 04:27 EST (No Feedback Yet)
Dear Lisa, this is just another annoyance of doing your business online. You see, I've been around for 4 yrs now (as an E-lancer) and believe me, there are more worse scenarios and your not the only one. There is one thing you did not mention in your extensive warning. "was this the first time you've bid on a job down there, or did you have satisfying experiences with them in the past"? If this was your first time, pay attention next time and consider this as a learning experience. In case you've got fine jobs done in the past, through them, then I believe this is a payback, which is not very stylish. Anyway, I hope your warning was a learning moment for all who are new in this and an eyopener for those who are in it for sometime. I must say that I like your attitude and if there's one thing important when being a creative...it's attitude. Be good...Dennis (www.dennisdepriester.com)
bid2
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$ 100 5 days 11-07-2004 08:00 EST (No Feedback Yet)
we can do it.
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